Rob The Long Island Cowboy
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Evans has a big hammer. That's his bread and butter and he'll look to go to it early and often. He's a punk. Always has been and always will be. You watch after his knockout of chuck and he spends three hours posing and grandstanding rather than go over and check on his opponent. Rarely do you see this and when you do it sticks in your head. He's a turd. Plain and simple. He's what wrong with the sport. These schmucks who think they're hard core badasses and use the sport to try this macho bullshit on national tv.
And knocking out chuck? please. at this point chuck is shot. been for a while. he's a gunfighter with no bullets left. wants to bang but the hand speed just ain't there. you watch the knockout. he goes for the uppercut but he's just too slow. wide open and blammo.
Griffin is a heart and soul, blood and guts fellow. You never bet against heart.
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??? Strange response Rob! Evan's is a punk and a turd because he celebrated after winning???? Well then you got alot of punks and turds in the world. Almost everyone does it. Not only in MMA but in other sports too. And when your talking about going heads up with someone that may potentially hurt you... I can see why he celebrated.
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jeht2000 Wrote:??? Strange response Rob! Evan's is a punk and a turd because he celebrated after winning???? Well then you got alot of punks and turds in the world. Almost everyone does it. Not only in MMA but in other sports too. And when your talking about going heads up with someone that may potentially hurt you... I can see why he celebrated.
anyone who'd studied the arts, participated in them, cared for them knows that the first rule of martial arts is that your partner / opponent's safety is your responsibility. what enough fights and you'll see what i mean. there is an unwritten code of honor and behavior. your opponent is ko'd. watch how many guys will hold up and look to the referee. chuck had the most ludicrous over the top celebration routine but he always checked on his opponent. sakuraba would bow. i can go on and on.
you can celebrate but like my shihan said. act like you've been there before.
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I've been around along time bro, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't check on your opponent or that its not f'd up when they don't. All I'm saying is that I've seen alot, and I mean alot of people get caught up in the celebration. So, I agree with you that its f'd up, but I wouldn't expect but so much in a sport like MMA.
And, I will have to disagree with my opponents safety being my responsibility in a physical sport like MMA or boxing. When I go to strike someone or hit a move..their safety is not on my mind. In practice, but not in an actual fight!
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it may not be a persons responsibility to watch out for the other guys health, but man, you cannot celebrate when the guy you just hit is laying on the ground no different than a dead person.
[user=44]Rob The Long Island Cowboy[/user] wrote:
Quote:Evans has a big hammer.
And rob... what does the size of his junk have to do with anything?
jeht2000 Wrote:I've been around along time bro, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't check on your opponent or that its not f'd up when they don't. All I'm saying is that I've seen alot, and I mean alot of people get caught up in the celebration. So, I agree with you that its f'd up, but I wouldn't expect but so much in a sport like MMA.
And, I will have to disagree with my opponents safety being my responsibility in a physical sport like MMA or boxing. When I go to strike someone or hit a move..their safety is not on my mind. In practice, but not in an actual fight!
Do you actually participate in MMA? Where do you now or where did you train and what was your primary discipline?
Also, we don't know a lot about you? What part of the country do you live in and how old are you? What in the hell is your name? [lol]
Finally, are you a body builder? Just wondering as the avatar would suggest so. 
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jeht2000 Wrote:I've been around along time bro, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't check on your opponent or that its not f'd up when they don't. All I'm saying is that I've seen alot, and I mean alot of people get caught up in the celebration. So, I agree with you that its f'd up, but I wouldn't expect but so much in a sport like MMA.
And, I will have to disagree with my opponents safety being my responsibility in a physical sport like MMA or boxing. When I go to strike someone or hit a move..their safety is not on my mind. In practice, but not in an actual fight!
i'm sorry i have to disagree with you 100% here. it's a sport not life and death. you demonstrate sportsmanship. it's the way i was taught. way my son has been taught. it's a common value that everyone who understands what martial arts is all about respects. martial arts is a discipline. therein lies the rub. discipline. it has unfortunately been watered down and basterdized by all too many substandard human beings.
i've worked with people professional fighters on occassion, sparred with people again professionals on occassion, hit people and have been hit by people, been broken more times than i can recount in one paragraph. I have never intentionally hurt an opponent, disrespected my opponent or myself, disrespected my teacher, or disrespected my dojo or the art that i was studying. i would not do it. i would not work with people who would do it. and i will forever be offended and repulsed by those who do. just my .02.
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Rob The Long Island Cowboy Wrote:jeht2000 Wrote:I've been around along time bro, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't check on your opponent or that its not f'd up when they don't. All I'm saying is that I've seen alot, and I mean alot of people get caught up in the celebration. So, I agree with you that its f'd up, but I wouldn't expect but so much in a sport like MMA.
And, I will have to disagree with my opponents safety being my responsibility in a physical sport like MMA or boxing. When I go to strike someone or hit a move..their safety is not on my mind. In practice, but not in an actual fight!
i'm sorry i have to disagree with you 100% here. it's a sport not life and death. you demonstrate sportsmanship. it's the way i was taught. way my son has been taught. it's a common value that everyone who understands what martial arts is all about respects. martial arts is a discipline. therein lies the rub. discipline. it has unfortunately been watered down and basterdized by all too many substandard human beings.
i've worked with people professional fighters on occassion, sparred with people again professionals on occassion, hit people and have been hit by people, been broken more times than i can recount in one paragraph. I have never intentionally hurt an opponent, disrespected my opponent or myself, disrespected my teacher, or disrespected my dojo or the art that i was studying. i would not do it. i would not work with people who would do it. and i will forever be offended and repulsed by those who do. just my .02.
what exactly is "hit a move"... I was trained in many arts and know moves that will without a doubt take someones life. I dont think I'd execute them unless my life was in eminent peril.
For instance, would you poke someones eye out blinding them for life? (although this makes for a great movie)
The more I learned, the more I learned control. I dont stand for crap form anyone, but I control my executions.
Just like many cop friends of mine who get into arguments. They are all armed. The weapon never comes out.
I have been around and a part of martial arts since 1987 and I currently still am involved. In my jujitsu dojo, and as an instructor in my kid's TKD programs, safety is always number 1.
Any maritial art from Day 1 stresses respect and discipline. Classes are firmly structured. Even speaking out of place is punished with knuckle pushups. During sparring, striking, grappling, or kicking drills safety is the norm from every discipline I have studied under and taught.
And I have seen people get hurt. In class, if one shows disregard, attitude, or cockiness to an opponent down they are no longer a member of that dojo. Its as simple as that. This make me wonder where you train Jeht if you do in fact train.
And in numerous tournaments the structure is not set like the UFC. There is much more respect for opponents on EVERY other level below the UFC with the exception of Casino Fights and such. These fighters now in the UFC that you see coming from the ranks of "World Champion" Jujitsu Blackbelts all come from a lineage of respectful learning. And even in the "world championships" its a respect thing and high regard for the injured which sometimes happens.
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ok i've got my christmas wish! steak dinner with the tank and skip talking mma. shit. i'd be like a kid in a candy store. i'm buying guys.
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