01-17-2008, 07:59 PM
The Marines (USMC) vs Terrorists
Regarding the news blurb about the Marine who put two rounds
("double tap") in a wounded insurgent's head in Fallujah, here's a
response from a Marine:
"It's a safety issue, pure and simple. After assaulting through a
target, we put a security round in everybody's head. Sorry al-
Reuters, there's no paddy wagon rolling around Fallujah picking up
"prisoners" and offering them a hot cup o' Joe, falafel, and a
blanket.
There's no time to dick around on the target. You clear the
space, dump the chumps, and move on. Are Corpsmen expected to treat wounded terrorists?
Negative.
By the way, in our view, terrorists who chop off civilian's heads
are not prisoners, they are carcasses. Chopping off a civilian's
head is another reason why these idiots are known as "unlawful
combatants." It seems that most of the world's journalists have
forgotten that fact.
Let me be very clear about this issue. I have looked around the
web, and many people get this concept, but there are some
stragglers. Here is your typical Marine sitrep (situation
report): You just took fire from unlawful combatants (no uniform -
breaking every Geneva Convention rule there is) shooting from a
religious building, attempting to use the sanctuary status of their
position as protection. But you're in Fallujah now, and the Marine
Corps has decided that they're not playing that game this time.
That was Najaf. So you set the mosque on fire and you hose down
the terrorists with small arms, launch some AT-4s (Rockets), some
40MM grenades into the building and things quiet down.
So you run over there, and find some tangos (bad guys) wounded and
pretending to be dead. You are aware that suicide martyrdom is
like really popular with these idiots, and they think taking some
Marines with them would be really cool. So you can risk your life
and your fire team's lives by having them cover you while you bend
down and search a guy that you think is pretending to be dead for
some reason. Most of the time these are the guys with the grenade
or a vest made of explosives. Also, you don't know who or what is
in the next room. You're already speaking English to the rest of
your fire team or squad, which lets the terrorist know you are
there and you are his enemy.
You are speaking loud because your hearing is poor from shooting
people for several days. So you know that there are many other
rooms to enter, and that if anyone is still alive in those rooms,
they know that Americans are in the mosque. Meanwhile (3 seconds
later), you still have this terrorist (that was just shooting at
you from a mosque) playing possum. What do you do? You double tap
his head, and you go to the next room, that's what!
What about the Geneva Convention and all that 'Law of Land Warfare'
stuff? What about it? Without even addressing the issues at hand,
your first thought should be, "I'd rather be judged by 12 than
carried by 6."
Bear in mind that this tactic of double tapping a fallen terrorist
is a perpetual mindset that is reinforced by experience on a minute-
by-minute basis. Secondly, you are fighting an unlawful combatant
in a Sanctuary, which is a double No-No on his part. Third,
tactically you are in no position to take "prisoners" because there
are more rooms to search and clear, and the behavior of said
terrorist indicates that he is up to no good.
No good in Fallujah is a very large place and the low end of no
good and the high end of no good are fundamentally the same ...
Marines end up getting hurt or die.
So there is no compelling reason for you to do anything but double
tap this idiot and get on with the mission ensuring your safety and
those in your unit.
If you are a veteran, then everything I have just written is self-
evident. If you are not a veteran, at least try to put yourself in
the situation.
Remember, in Fallujah there is no yesterday, there is no tomorrow,
there is only now, Right NOW. Have you ever lived in NOW for a
week? It is really, really not easy. If you have never lived in
NOW for longer than it takes to finish the big roller coaster at
Six Flags, then shut your mouth about putting Marines in jail for
"War Crimes."
Regarding the news blurb about the Marine who put two rounds
("double tap") in a wounded insurgent's head in Fallujah, here's a
response from a Marine:
"It's a safety issue, pure and simple. After assaulting through a
target, we put a security round in everybody's head. Sorry al-
Reuters, there's no paddy wagon rolling around Fallujah picking up
"prisoners" and offering them a hot cup o' Joe, falafel, and a
blanket.
There's no time to dick around on the target. You clear the
space, dump the chumps, and move on. Are Corpsmen expected to treat wounded terrorists?
Negative.
By the way, in our view, terrorists who chop off civilian's heads
are not prisoners, they are carcasses. Chopping off a civilian's
head is another reason why these idiots are known as "unlawful
combatants." It seems that most of the world's journalists have
forgotten that fact.
Let me be very clear about this issue. I have looked around the
web, and many people get this concept, but there are some
stragglers. Here is your typical Marine sitrep (situation
report): You just took fire from unlawful combatants (no uniform -
breaking every Geneva Convention rule there is) shooting from a
religious building, attempting to use the sanctuary status of their
position as protection. But you're in Fallujah now, and the Marine
Corps has decided that they're not playing that game this time.
That was Najaf. So you set the mosque on fire and you hose down
the terrorists with small arms, launch some AT-4s (Rockets), some
40MM grenades into the building and things quiet down.
So you run over there, and find some tangos (bad guys) wounded and
pretending to be dead. You are aware that suicide martyrdom is
like really popular with these idiots, and they think taking some
Marines with them would be really cool. So you can risk your life
and your fire team's lives by having them cover you while you bend
down and search a guy that you think is pretending to be dead for
some reason. Most of the time these are the guys with the grenade
or a vest made of explosives. Also, you don't know who or what is
in the next room. You're already speaking English to the rest of
your fire team or squad, which lets the terrorist know you are
there and you are his enemy.
You are speaking loud because your hearing is poor from shooting
people for several days. So you know that there are many other
rooms to enter, and that if anyone is still alive in those rooms,
they know that Americans are in the mosque. Meanwhile (3 seconds
later), you still have this terrorist (that was just shooting at
you from a mosque) playing possum. What do you do? You double tap
his head, and you go to the next room, that's what!
What about the Geneva Convention and all that 'Law of Land Warfare'
stuff? What about it? Without even addressing the issues at hand,
your first thought should be, "I'd rather be judged by 12 than
carried by 6."
Bear in mind that this tactic of double tapping a fallen terrorist
is a perpetual mindset that is reinforced by experience on a minute-
by-minute basis. Secondly, you are fighting an unlawful combatant
in a Sanctuary, which is a double No-No on his part. Third,
tactically you are in no position to take "prisoners" because there
are more rooms to search and clear, and the behavior of said
terrorist indicates that he is up to no good.
No good in Fallujah is a very large place and the low end of no
good and the high end of no good are fundamentally the same ...
Marines end up getting hurt or die.
So there is no compelling reason for you to do anything but double
tap this idiot and get on with the mission ensuring your safety and
those in your unit.
If you are a veteran, then everything I have just written is self-
evident. If you are not a veteran, at least try to put yourself in
the situation.
Remember, in Fallujah there is no yesterday, there is no tomorrow,
there is only now, Right NOW. Have you ever lived in NOW for a
week? It is really, really not easy. If you have never lived in
NOW for longer than it takes to finish the big roller coaster at
Six Flags, then shut your mouth about putting Marines in jail for
"War Crimes."



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