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scammed
#1
So a young friend of mine called me the other night. He got ripped off. Let me give you some background.
This guy fishes with me. Recently he got married, 3 months later had a kid, bought a house. All on a pizza delivery salary. He upgraded his job and became a transporter in a hospital (these are like the orderlies that move patients from their room to various tests and back). Needless to say this job paid poorly and he was in debt up to his ears. Then his wife has some major operation that paralyzes her wrists and she cant work (she worked in a hair salon). The house he bought had 2 illegal apartments but if he rented them he would be OK. They were rented. Still he had this hole he needed to climb out of. He borrowed $8,000 form a loan shark. OK, there's your background.
Recently his grandmother passed away. This left her house vacant. Now my friend looses his job in the hospital near his home and gets another one around 1n hours drive away. So he figures he can move into his grandmothers house and rent his place. He can actually make a few bucks. So he puts an ad in the paper renting the apartment for 2 grand (way too high, but he figures what the heck). He gets a call from a guy in London who needs a place to stay for a 18 month job he is doing on LI. They agree he should send a check for 4 grand to cover month 1 and the security. The check comes & my friend moves out of his house... Except the check is for $7,500. My friend calls the guy back. It's an "accident" but to expedite the guy tells him to deposit the check, keep an extra hundred for his troubles and send a check back for $3,400. My friend deposits the bank check and after it clears sends the guy his money via Western Union wire  as requested. 2 days later the bank calls and rejects the check. My friend..
a-moved out of his house
b-is out $3,400
c-has no tenant...
He called the guy and threatened to call the cops. The guy laughed saying: "go ahead".
The cops turned it over to the FBI who is powerless. The perp is in Nigeria.
 
Not too long ago another friend of mine had something similar when trying to sell a boat. I talked him into not even cashing the check. Told him to tell the other guy to issue a new check. The guy disappeared.
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#2
Damn, thats some messed up stuff Skip.

 

I really do thank you Skip because you have been the one making everyone aware of such scams via the experiences you have heard, you have made me very cautious about giving out my information and making sure I do not blindly trust any stranger. Thank you

 

Has your friend bounced back from this??
Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did.
George Carlin
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#3
I don't know, you would think common sense would play into this. Why send a check back until the check you have clears?
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#4
This just happened within the last 2 weeks. At the rate he is going it's going to take a long time to bounce back (just a few weeks ago I had to loan him some money to pay some bills).

 

Jim, the odd thing is, this is a cashiers or bank check .The bank clears it instantly. However they have this fine print think that enables them to return the check within 48 hours. Most of us don't know this. My friend (Tommy) actually paid this guy with funds cleared form that check (he would not have otherwise had the means to cover it). Then the bank withdrew the funds and returned the check. His account is now in debit for $4,000+
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#5
I get scams like this all the time at the hotel i work at.
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#6
ashman Wrote:I get scams like this all the time at the hotel i work at.

Ty, how;s that? Don't you require a credit card etc?

John, Tommy is such a nice guy. I feel sorry for him but man you just got to wonder how this stuff happens to him.
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#7
Jim, I'm not saying this is what happened here... but... Some people are always looking for the angle. Not "an" angle. THE angle. Because they are sure there is always an angle. His parents spoiled him. Gave him $ every time he needed it. Up until his dad lost his job last year. He dropped out of school the day he was legally able. And his parents set a poor example. Dad loves to gamble. Took the boys to casinos and OTB at an early age. Taught them to count winnings and not losses. I can't tell you how many time's I'd hear "I'm up $400 playing blackjack last night" and later on I found out he lost 7 hundred the previous 2 nights. Just about every fish he ever caught he would sell.

One day I expect he will find his angle. Until then it will be a rough hard road.
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#8
Jimmie the Mum Wrote:
ashman Wrote:I get scams like this all the time at the hotel i work at.

Ty, how;s that? Don't you require a credit card etc?

John, Tommy is such a nice guy. I feel sorry for him but man you just got to wonder how this stuff happens to him.
Steven Segal put it best. What am I, a shit magnet? Lessons learned are like bridges burned, you only need to cross them once.


There are way too many crooks out there that have no mercy on a workin man. No respect in the world today. A mans word and a handshake use to be all it took and million dollar business was formed.  I sure hate it for your guy and his family.
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We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered.

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#9
how horrible....gotta feel sorry for the guy...
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#10
WOW!   I think the bank should be held liable for cashing the check like that.

Here is what I don't understand.   I can take a check to the bank for $5,000+ and they put a hold on the money.   (some banks are $3500)   You can take a very small portion of it, but the rest is on hold until it clears.   The bigger the check, the longer the waiting period.   In most cases, its a 5-15 day waiting period.

Maybe he had that $3,400 extra in his account, but if he didn't...something is fishy with how it went down.   Now being a check from London, outside of the USA, that is even more of a wait before the funds are available.   If the bank stated the funds cleared and he then wired the $$, then the bank cannot come back and say it didn't clear.

Something seems odd because I know the hassle I get all the time with large deposits and withdrawls on them.    Also know the "BS" of taking out $10,000 cash for my trips to Vegas.    They fingerprint, check ID, make you sign a form making sure its not to pay someone randsom.   The banks are very strict on deposits and withdrawls on anything over $2000.
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