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I have been on and off with these for so long it seems like this is the first cigar I ever smoked. People talk about the quality slipping on them at times and the wrapper not being as oily and they are underfilled and blah, blah, blah.
I still find them to be a consistently medium to full cigar with a ton of earthy cocoa and tobacco flavor to them. They don't always look top notch often bordering on ragedy looking. This one I'm smoking now has been sitting for about a year and half and it's better than I remember them ever being. Maybe RP was rushing them to market based on demand but I'll submit that if you give them time they are still the same smoke many consider their "go to" cigar.
Lit like a champ and poured clouds of smoke the whole time. Built in flavor and strength all the way through with very little compelxity but that wasn't what I was looking for. Just a very good medium-full maduro cigar that gave me just what I expected for about $4. What could be wrong with that?
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great review! good to hear about the aging factor on these. i've got few edges due to the generosity (read: merciless carpet-bombing) of various s.c. members. i agree with your opinion, not a lot of complexity but a mighty fine smoke all the same.
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i can't figure out this stick. i picked them up a while back on the recommendation of bluesman. bought a few boxes of the x-outs from corona. loved them. nice strong cigar with a licorice-ey coca-cola taste to it. bought a few lately and i'd swear it wasn't the same stick. just my humble opinion but something is definately different there.
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Rob The Long Island Cowboy Wrote:i can't figure out this stick. i picked them up a while back on the recommendation of bluesman. bought a few boxes of the x-outs from corona. loved them. nice strong cigar with a licorice-ey coca-cola taste to it. bought a few lately and i'd swear it wasn't the same stick. just my humble opinion but something is definately different there.
I felt the same thing a while back Rob. Had about 2 1/2 boxes from various periods and they all seemed a little...off. I wanted so bad to like them again that I gave it a shot on one of the older x-out boxes and it was close to the same stick I remember. Maybe give them a long nap and see what comes of them.
I remember when you, me, Po, Rubie, Djaric, and a few others started on here all we could do is chase Edge's and VSG's. Maybe I need to have a VSG tongiht
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Headley Wrote:I remember when you, me, Po, Rubie, Djaric, and a few others started on here all we could do is chase Edge's and VSG's. Maybe I need to have a VSG tongiht .
lol. i'm sooo getting old.
now you've got me hankering to break out a vsg as well.
have you bought any edges recently though? the ones with the banded foot?
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Rob The Long Island Cowboy Wrote:Headley Wrote:I remember when you, me, Po, Rubie, Djaric, and a few others started on here all we could do is chase Edge's and VSG's. Maybe I need to have a VSG tongiht .
lol. i'm sooo getting old.
now you've got me hankering to break out a vsg as well.
have you bought any edges recently though? the ones with the banded foot?
I have not. I've still got so many Edge's and VSG's that are laying down for a while that I have no desire or need to chase them. How about you Robfather?
Anybody tried them with the band on the foot? I seem to remember either DiscDog or Bluesman mentioning he had tried them and they were the same.
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I bought one of the banded foot ones out of curiosity recently and jan and i both tried the non-banded ones about 3-4 months ago if memory serves. i can't honestly say that they tasted the way that i remember. then again i am losing more and more of my mind these days so it may be a case of they were never that good then but so different from anything i'd had to that point that i though them better than they were.
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Market pressure and the Edge . . . . this is secondhand info, but the first hand got it straight from the horse's mouth. Dave & Vi at TW have been down to Rocky's place a couple times now, and Rocky's hosted tastings here with about the same frequency.
Awhile back, demand outstripped supply. Rocky, trying to keep up, used a ligero leaf from a different farm/area in the Edge blend. It was, aaaaah, noticeable. And not an improvement. Something similar happened with the Sungrowns, which went through a "blah" spell around the same time.
Both blends are back to their original leafs and recipes. The Edge was restored to about 95% of its original zippadeedoodahness a few months before the foot bands started. I still don't think they're quite as tasty as they used to be, but y'know, the older I get the better I was, lol, so maybe memory plays tricks on me.
Rocky has, ahem, learned his lesson. There will be no more mucking about with proven blends . . . just occasional shortages.
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thanks for the info nanp!
