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Now I've seen everything
#31
Good job!

Someone should have bought them for $50 on their Visa card, then filed a chargeback on the ^&%&^% stating it was a fake product.  Wink
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#32
I couldn't resist one last response...

 

Look David, let me explain this to you.
First, I did not scan Craig's List to find your listing. It was pointed out to me. Who I am is not important. However, posting an fraudulent item on an auction site is serious business. Because these sites cross state boundaries the number of federal organizations that can pursue this is quite impressive. This list includes the FBI, The US Postal Inspectors, the Federal trade Commission, IC3, your state & local authorities in Illinois and more. And yes, it is probably true you MAY get away with it, but not if a buyer found out and reported you. Then the authorities would be obligated to pursue it. Further, you are no more likely to get away with fraud in this light than a person who scams $400 form an old person promising to share some bogus lottery ticket. It is illegal and removal of the ad can only server to help you.
Then there is Arturo Fuente. Carlito & Carlos are personal friends of mine. Should someone unknowlegable buy these inferior cigars and mistake them for the real deal this would seriously taint their reputation. They are keenly interested in stopping any and all counterfeiting of their product as much for the damage to their name as for the loss of income.
Then there is the series of mistruths that have accompanied your ad and subsequent e-mails. Friends of mine who have contacted you first have copies where you made claims about the product that directly contradicted the text in your ad where you said you quit smoking and were selling a gift. In these e-mails you said you bought the cigars and, unfortunately for you, admitted you knew they were fake. You were then legally obligated to remove the ad. See, no one has to sue you. The authorities uphold the law without anyone suing.
I hope this helps to explain my position and your understanding. Do yourself a favor, remove the labels and any indication that the cigars may be from any reputable manufacturer and give them to a friend or sell them for what they are. Without the labels.
As for responding to my message, don't bother. I will not be responding to any more e-mails form you.

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#33
hahahaha... this guy is a trip. Here is his response.

Very interesting email, you are very passionate about your work and appear to be knowledgable about the subject matter.  Oh, since you know Carlito and Carlos on a personal level can you have them extend there friendship to me.  I have had a hard time getting my hands on the opus x cigars, could you help, I am willing to pay!
 
Dave
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#34
Skipper the cigar aFISHinodo Wrote:hahahaha... this guy is a trip. Here is his response.

Very interesting email, you are very passionate about your work and appear to be knowledgable about the subject matter.  Oh, since you know Carlito and Carlos on a personal level can you have them extend there friendship to me.  I have had a hard time getting my hands on the opus x cigars, could you help, I am willing to pay!
 
Dave
What a piece of s.h.i.t. that guy is.
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#35
Jimmie the Mum Wrote:
Skipper the cigar aFISHinodo Wrote:hahahaha... this guy is a trip. Here is his response.

Very interesting email, you are very passionate about your work and appear to be knowledgable about the subject matter.  Oh, since you know Carlito and Carlos on a personal level can you have them extend there friendship to me.  I have had a hard time getting my hands on the opus x cigars, could you help, I am willing to pay!
 
Dave
What a piece of s.h.i.t. that guy is.
Ding, correct again Jimmie. Wink
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#36
fishhound Wrote:
Jimmie the Mum Wrote:
Skipper the cigar aFISHinodo Wrote:hahahaha... this guy is a trip. Here is his response.

Very interesting email, you are very passionate about your work and appear to be knowledgable about the subject matter.  Oh, since you know Carlito and Carlos on a personal level can you have them extend there friendship to me.  I have had a hard time getting my hands on the opus x cigars, could you help, I am willing to pay!
 
Dave
What a piece of s.h.i.t. that guy is.
Ding, correct again Jimmie. Wink
DING DING DING!!Big GrinBig Grin That guy is a R-tard!
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#37
He just wants a bunch of Opus X boxes so he can stuff them with Thompsons and sell them on Craigslist... [devil]
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#38
Skipper the cigar aFISHinodo Wrote:I couldn't resist one last response...

 

Look David, let me explain this to you.
First, I did not scan Craig's List to find your listing. It was pointed out to me. Who I am is not important. However, posting an fraudulent item on an auction site is serious business. Because these sites cross state boundaries the number of federal organizations that can pursue this is quite impressive. This list includes the FBI, The US Postal Inspectors, the Federal trade Commission, IC3, your state & local authorities in Illinois and more. And yes, it is probably true you MAY get away with it, but not if a buyer found out and reported you. Then the authorities would be obligated to pursue it. Further, you are no more likely to get away with fraud in this light than a person who scams $400 form an old person promising to share some bogus lottery ticket. It is illegal and removal of the ad can only server to help you.
Then there is Arturo Fuente. Carlito & Carlos are personal friends of mine. Should someone unknowlegable buy these inferior cigars and mistake them for the real deal this would seriously taint their reputation. They are keenly interested in stopping any and all counterfeiting of their product as much for the damage to their name as for the loss of income.
Then there is the series of mistruths that have accompanied your ad and subsequent e-mails. Friends of mine who have contacted you first have copies where you made claims about the product that directly contradicted the text in your ad where you said you quit smoking and were selling a gift. In these e-mails you said you bought the cigars and, unfortunately for you, admitted you knew they were fake. You were then legally obligated to remove the ad. See, no one has to sue you. The authorities uphold the law without anyone suing.
I hope this helps to explain my position and your understanding. Do yourself a favor, remove the labels and any indication that the cigars may be from any reputable manufacturer and give them to a friend or sell them for what they are. Without the labels.
As for responding to my message, don't bother. I will not be responding to any more e-mails form you.
Again, way to go Skipper!
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