10-21-2007, 11:48 AM
[user=44]Rob The Long Island Cowboy[/user] wrote:
You know how to cook a frog, don't you?
But if you don't like an example from the past of what a democratic country should and could be, how about a few from the present?
Sweden, Denmark, Norway.
Higher standard of living than the good ol' [usa] even WITH 40% of wages going to taxes. Because what THEY get with THEIR taxes isn't corporate welfare, foreign misadventures, and more bombs . . . no, they get things like health care, education, retirement, a social safety net, and infrastructure investment.
It's called democratic socialism. Rush waves it around to scare the dittoheads, but it DOES work. Really well.
Those are all more homogenous, less diverse, smaller countries than us. It's possible it couldn't work here, and almost certain that the giant megacorporations that actually run our government would never allow it here. But it's living, vibrant proof that socialism, so long a dirty word here, CAN and DOES work in a free society, without impeding personal liberties or leading to communism or dogs and cats humping each other or anything.
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Quote:Not A Nice Person Wrote:[user=44]Rob The Long Island Cowboy[/user] wrote:Â
Quote:yes we are flawed but is there anywhere else you'd want to live? Â
Yes, there is.
America. As it used to be, when I was young...
I believe it was Frank Zappa who said that history is nostalgia with the rust painted over. The past was never as good as it seems nor is the future as bleak as it appears. Same old story day after day. Times don't change only us. Music becomes too loud. Hair too long. Price of goods too expensive. Same story different day. Listen to ourselves. This was cheaper. That was better. How long before we walked to school. Uphill. Both ways. In a hurricane.
You know how to cook a frog, don't you?
But if you don't like an example from the past of what a democratic country should and could be, how about a few from the present?
Sweden, Denmark, Norway.
Higher standard of living than the good ol' [usa] even WITH 40% of wages going to taxes. Because what THEY get with THEIR taxes isn't corporate welfare, foreign misadventures, and more bombs . . . no, they get things like health care, education, retirement, a social safety net, and infrastructure investment.
It's called democratic socialism. Rush waves it around to scare the dittoheads, but it DOES work. Really well.
Those are all more homogenous, less diverse, smaller countries than us. It's possible it couldn't work here, and almost certain that the giant megacorporations that actually run our government would never allow it here. But it's living, vibrant proof that socialism, so long a dirty word here, CAN and DOES work in a free society, without impeding personal liberties or leading to communism or dogs and cats humping each other or anything.
NANPâ¢
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