The Big Three's donations after 9/11

[carl609]

A friend of mine emailed me this and I just had to post it here.  It speaks for itself.

 


GM, Ford, & Chrysler  


INTERESTING...maybe the country should consider bailing them out to some degree

Nothing needs to be said... Ford, Chrysler and GM's contributions after 9/11

An interesting commentary...You might find this of interest:

CNN Headline News did a short news listing regarding Ford and GM's
contributions to the relief and recovery efforts in New York and Washington .

The findings are as follows.....

1. Ford   - $10 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions
of the same number plus 10 Excursions to NY Fire Dept.   The company also
offered ER response team services and office space to displaced government employees.

2. GM   - $10 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions
of the same number and a fleet of Vans, SUV's, and Trucks.

3. Daimler Chrysler   -   $10 million to support of the children and victims
of the Sept. 11 attack.

 4. Harley Davidson motorcycles  - $1 million and 30 new
motorcycles to the New York Police Dept.

5. Volkswagen  -  Employees and management created a Sept 11 Foundation,
funded initial with $2 million, for the assistance of the children and victims of the WTC.

6. Hyundai  - $300,000 to the American Red Cross.

7. Audi  - see VW

8. BMW - Nothing.

9. Daewoo - Nothing.

10. Fiat - Nothing.

11. Honda - Nothing despite boasting of second best sales month ever in August 2001

12. Isuzu - Nothing.

13. Mitsubishi - Nothing.

14. Nissan - Nothing.

15. Porsche - Nothing. Press release with condolences via the Porsche website.

16. Subaru - Nothing.

17. Suzuki - Nothing.

18. Toyota - Nothing despite claims of high sales in July and August 2001.
Condolences posted on the website .

Whenever the time may be for you to purchase a new vehicle, keep this information in mind.   You might want to give more consideration to a car manufactured by an American-owned and / or American based company.    Apart from Hyundai and Volkswagen, the foreign car companies  contributed nothing at all to the citizens of the United States ... It's OK  for these companies to take money out of this country, but it is apparently  not acceptable to return some in a time of crisis.    I believe we should not  forget things like this.   Say thank you in a way that gets their attention..

[lucas]

Very interesting stuff!  Thanks for the post, definitely made me think twice!

-Lucas

[Vitamin G]

Makes me feel better about driving a Hyundai.    One of the only non-American companies to donate.  I REALLY REALLY wanted to buy an American vehicle, but after having gone through three GM vehicles with crappy electronics, i just couldn't bring myself to do it again.

[stogiedad.1]

I have always driven an American vehical, with the exception of a piece of crap honda that i had for a whole week before taking and selling it.

[MikeD]

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/automakers.asp

Part of its true, most of it's inaccurate.

 Just recirculated internet BS to try and drum up some sympathy for the bailouts of the big 3.

[carl609]

I was a GM mechanic for a long time, and buy and drive mainly GM products.  I agree they need to step up the quality on their cars to compete with foreign companies like Honda and Toyota, but nothing beats an american truck. 

[Parkster]

[user=1589]carl609[/user] wrote:

I was a GM mechanic for a long time, and buy and drive mainly GM products.  I agree they need to step up the quality on their cars to compete with foreign companies like Honda and Toyota, but nothing beats an american truck. 

Blinded by the flag Dude.

My father was the same with his old British bikes and cars.

BUY BRITISH ITS YOUR DUTY was his war cry.

I used to remind him that the overseas competition were better built, cheaper, etc etc, but he was blinded by his national pride. I see the same happening in the USA ........ BUY AMERICAN .... even though the American manufacturers wont budge on poor quality, craftsmanship and after sales service (you admit it yourself).

The result for the British motor industry is that it almost no longer exists. Triumph motorcycles are back, but only as a result of initially putting Kawasaki desighned engines in their bikes when the first reappeared. The rest of the British motor industry is either high end (and partially owned overseas) or low volume built in a shed.


To think that nationalism should justify poor quality is offensive to me ..... we know its shit, and we wont change it cos your national pride makes you dumb enough to give us your money anyway ...... I think the British industry got what it deserved (not the people who lost their jobs), and I think the American industry deserves everything coming to them for having the same ethos towards their customers.

If the industries pride in their product was the same as the peoples pride in buying a national product they would be the best cars in the world. But the industry dont give a fuck about the people ....... well maybe a little just now cos they want your tax dollars to bale them out ...... but at the end of the day the people have to vote with their dollars when buying a new truck, car etc or things will never change.

To end with this rant.

Some (not all) of the workers at these motor plants are also responcible for the poor quality, more so the lack of craftsmanship and pride in their work. Too many people think a job is a god given right, and as a result, they show no initiative, incentive, motivation or pride in what they do ...... the result is the "Friday" car that in all reality is made on any day that has a "Y" in it. The opposite can be said for the same worker overseas ........ He/She is proud of having a job and proud of having the company logo on their work clothes and the result is shown in their product.


[cigar]

[carl609]

[user=102]Parkster[/user] wrote:
"Too many people think a job is a god given right, and as a result, they show no initiative, incentive, motivation or pride in what they do"



I couldnt agree more.  And it is not just the automakers, it is most industry in the USA.  I work in a food manufacturing plant, and, as you said, most people feel they deserve to work there.  I hear "thats not my job" all the time.  It is a Union job, which is new to me.  At the dealership, if I told my boss "thats not my job", he would probably tell me to go F myself and get back to work.  Cant do that now, and a lot of lame ass, lazy people have high paying jobs, just because they show up.  When did that become a factor for keeping a job.  I know showing up everyday is important, but if that is all you do, give me break.  NOw that my rant is over...

  As far as me being blinded by the flag, I disagree.  I buy GM's because I have the knowlege and tools to work on them.  When it comes time to get a good family car, that may change.  I can usually fix them for little or no money.  Buying and selling cars has been a good source of income for me for years.  I know that a lot of the foreign products are superior in many ways.  I do think however, that their full size trucks are lacking.  I am talking 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks.  If you need to tow or haul something, or work out of a truck, you have three manufaturers to choose from.  They happen to be american.  I think Toyota is on their way to a great truck, there midsize is a great truck.