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he has a hellova opinion for a dead man
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I STAND BY IT TONTO,,,,,,Not more than you or me
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#12
I saw a great history chanel thing on Fidel & Che. They were on their way to being heros. They were very idelic. Then once he got power he became obsessed with anti US feelings and then socialism (which he swore he was not). When he climbed in bed with the soviets, that was the end. Even Che became disgruntled with him.

Of course since then he became a manic dictator.
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Skipper the cigar aFISHinodo Wrote:I saw a great history chanel thing on Fidel & Che. They were on their way to being heros. They were very idelic. Then once he got power he became obsessed with anti US feelings and then socialism (which he swore he was not). When he climbed in bed with the soviets, that was the end. Even Che became disgruntled with him.

Of course since then he became a manic dictator.

When Fidel took power, knock off that worm Batista, he asked the United States to help him build a new Cuba seeing as they were only miles away from each other, but what did we do, we said no. The Cold war was Hot and what was the other option, my neighbor wont give me a hand and thinks im nothing but a guerrilla, nope better idea, go with his enemy who was more than willing to not just help out but give me so much money my economy will rely mostly on their aid and what we make from sugar.

Sorry ya'll, cant see him in a bad light. Hes not Stalin, nor Hitler nor Mao....hes Fidel....hes been about Cuba and hell even after the trade embargo, his island is still floating.

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#14
actually he first went to China for support. And the problem we had with him was Che. These are the 2 reasons the US did not support him.
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In any case, no matter how you feel about him,  he still has great smokes.
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#16
so?  dead people have been voting for the democratic ticket in droves going back to kennedy in '60. as have illegals.  prisoners.  same folks.  twice.  thrice.   Wink
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#17
I hear what you are saying Serg...but then why so many Cubans hate him and want to flee? And you being a cigar guy should know that when he took power, his regime seized all the tobacco land and factories leaving those poor families with nothing. Now he is not evil?
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Maduro PiPs Wrote:I hear what you are saying Serg...but then why so many Cubans hate him and want to flee? And you being a cigar guy should know that when he took power, his regime seized all the tobacco land and factories leaving those poor families with nothing. Now he is not evil?
Assuming he left them alive....
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Maduro PiPs Wrote:I hear what you are saying Serg...but then why so many Cubans hate him and want to flee? And you being a cigar guy should know that when he took power, his regime seized all the tobacco land and factories leaving those poor families with nothing. Now he is not evil?
i'm with you 100%.  fu#$er should be kept alive in formaldahyde indefinately so small children can poke him with sticks and try to touch each other with them screaming i got fidel on you.
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Rob The Long Island Cowboy Wrote:
Maduro PiPs Wrote:I hear what you are saying Serg...but then why so many Cubans hate him and want to flee? And you being a cigar guy should know that when he took power, his regime seized all the tobacco land and factories leaving those poor families with nothing. Now he is not evil?
i'm with you 100%.  fu#$er should be kept alive in formaldahyde indefinately so small children can poke him with sticks and try to touch each other with them screaming i got fidel on you.
LOL. Rob you have one hellva sadistic side to you, much like myself. You just express it better in words.
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