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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to back tobacco tax increase
#11
No ill will towards you Colby.  And we all need to remember that verbal communicaition on these forums can be construde as "very impersonal" and rude.  That is not my intent.

California is in a huge budget crunch.  They have closed nearly two dozen hospitals in recent years.  Other hospitals are going broke.  They want tobacco taxes to fund them.  I work for a large medical firm and I know the issues regarding the losses of revenue and closed up medical facilities.

Why are they going broke?:

 

I don't know how to post the link but according to the 2006 1st Quarter INS/FBI Statistical Report there are 380,000 anchor babies born in the US in 2005.  97.2% of all those cost incurred were paid by legal US Citizens.  At an average of 7k per birth provided it was a non-problematic birth, adds up to a lot of money.  You do the math. 

66% of all births in California are to illegals on Medi-Cal paid by the taxpayers.

43% of all food stamps in California are to illegals

41% of all unemployment checks are to illegals.

58% of all welfare is to illegals.

 

Again, this is NOT a racist issue but pure reality.  I personally like Mexican people and I love their culture.   But tobacco taxes are wanted to fund entitlement programs and healthcare.  And for who? For those not here legally!  

 

This is not about America being the asshole here.  You should check out Mexico's immigration laws. 

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14632&c=1&tb=1&pb=1&gd=05082006]http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14632&c=1&tb=1&pb=1&gd=05082006]http://http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14632&c=1&tb=1&pb=1&gd=05082006
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#12
I am not a racist but I am sure I am going to have to defend myself to some and that is unfortunate.  Its the reality of it!  This costs the US taxpayer billions annually.  How is this all not linked to tobacco taxes, the SCHIP etc.  Its all intertwined.

Ignorance in the form of political correctness here will get us into trouble.

INS Report:



http://http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=2103&sid=33c8ace3c06b00d1eb6dae1f8d39bdf4#2103]http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=2103&sid=33c8ace3c06b00d1eb6dae1f8d39bdf4#2103]http://http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=2103&sid=33c8ace3c06b00d1eb6dae1f8d39bdf4#2103[/url]

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#13
No doubt. And you have come off the epitome of class Wink (no one ever claimed you were a racist, we just have differing opinions regarding immigration and the allocation of funds). And I am not necessarily a big fan of non citizens on the dole myself (or anyone long term for that matter).  I think we are attacking the same issue from different ends.  Whatever your opionion on immigration and universal healthcare is aside, I believe we can both agree that funding wide sweeping programs by persecuting a relatively small segment of society (tobacco users) just isnt right[curse]!


TomC
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#14
ColbyPants Wrote:No doubt. And you have come off the epitome of class Wink (no one ever claimed you were a racist, we just have differing opinions regarding immigration and the allocation of funds). And I am not necessarily a big fan of non citizens on the dole myself (or anyone long term for that matter).  I think we are attacking the same issue from different ends.  Whatever your opionion on immigration and universal healthcare is aside, I believe we can both agree that funding wide sweeping programs by persecuting a relatively small segment of society (tobacco users) just isnt right[curse]!


TomC
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We seem to be attacking on different ends.  But bring SCHIP into the picture and tobbacco plays a larger role.  SCHIP is mandated by the states and California uses current SCHIP dollars almost solely for illegal alien medical costs.

You too are all class yourself Colby.
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#15
We all have political views and they can be volatile!  Lesson learned!

I am going to shut up politically here in Stogie Chat.  I totally like all you guys here and I am just going to stick to cigars, jokes, babes, cars, bikes, and Scotish guys in kilts!

I still love ya Colby!

 

 

Daryn
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#16
I didnt think this was all that volatile Wink


either way, whatever makes you the most comfortable I support completely.  rock on man.
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#17
Well, I guess Arnold is on my shitlist now. Twofaced, Cuban cigar smokin prick with as much money as GOD. Let him buy the probs of his state down. That's all I have to say about that!
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We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered.

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#18
Arnold, why do you keep disapointing me.
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